Addressing the matter

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All health care professionals address the matter.

The practice of medicine addresses the matter for the purpose of changing/improving the matter.

The practice of chiropractic addresses the matter for the purpose of changing /improving the force so the intelligence can change the matter.

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  1. Steve 10/02/2013, 6:28 pm:

    In medicine, it is hoped that Matter will achieve an educationally predetermined value. In Chiropractic, it is hoped that Matter will achieve it’s Innate potential. BIG (IDEA) DIFFERENCE

    • James Pietrek 10/23/2013, 3:25 am:

      But if 2+2 = 4 in building a truck or a computer, or in medicine for that matter, then 2+2 out to = 4 in chiropractic as well. We must pre-define what normal is. How do we know a person is subluxated? Shouldn’t we be re-evaluated those criteria right after the adjustment in order to confirm that their body accepted our universal force in a constructive way?

      • JoeStrauss 10/23/2013, 3:53 pm:

        James, welcome to the blog. Is 2+2=4 a mechanical device for trucks, computers and medicine. But the human body and chiropractic is not mechanistic, I don’t think and perhaps we should get aqay from making it so. Normal is what the ii of the body wants at a particular moment including the co0nfiguration of the spine. would you agree?

        • Steve 10/23/2013, 5:02 pm:

          Are you saying Sux. are normal or just denigrating post checks?

          • JoeStrauss 10/23/2013, 5:58 pm:

            Steve, I have read my last 4 comments and cannot figure where you got that impression. Pleas clarify what I said to give you that idea. Thanks

        • James Pietrek 10/24/2013, 4:13 am:

          I think of it as an adaptive normal. The body is dealing with the blown fuse and consequent compressive linear and circular forces under gravity within the body’s myofascial envelope. I think it’s the chiropractor’s job to get PM to or towards a normal normal. Resilience is an object’s ability to come back to a normal shape after being bent, compressed or stretched. There are limitations but I see the body springing back toward normal bilateral weight and structures aligning in the coronal plane as being evidence of vitalism because all I did was put them on their side and touch their neck. I would say the spine is resilient, but it takes a vitalistic approach to unlock it so it can spring back.

          • Claude Lessard 10/24/2013, 2:28 pm:

            James,
            It is the job of the objective chiropractor to practice the chiropractic objective which is to LACVS for a full expression of the innate forces of the innate intelligence of the body. PERIOD!

          • James Pietrek 10/24/2013, 8:58 pm:

            Claude, are you saying that the straight chiropractor’s objective and practice shouldn’t be within the “realm” of objectivity? If someone hobbled into your office with their head tilted 45 degrees to the side, and you touched one area of their spine and their head came back to the point of (visually) no postural misalignment in the coronal plane almost instantly, would you not say that the body has obviously moved toward normal or at least a better position?

  2. Steve 10/23/2013, 7:25 pm:

    “Normal is what the ii of the body wants at a particular moment including the co0nfiguration of the spine. would you agree?”
    This statement followed James’s comment on PC.
    Does this mean that any finding is normal, such as Sux.? Or perhaps the PC is unnecessary because II will do as it shall following our attempts at assistance?
    I would suggest the average person is Subluxated, yet it is not normal. Philosophically speaking Sux. is both the definition and demonstration of abnormal, is it not?
    As for PC, we have discussed this previously and will probably have to agree to disagree. It is however your blog I look forward to your clarification.

    • JoeStrauss 10/23/2013, 8:42 pm:

      Steve, I don’t think the ii of the body EVER wants the spine subluxated. Therefore a VS could not be considered normal. Do we need a discussion on the difference between normal and average?

      • Steve 10/23/2013, 10:08 pm:

        I think not, was just curious about your statement.

        • Steve 10/25/2013, 8:53 pm:

          That does remind me of the ongoing debate, self-correcting vs. self-adjusting. I do think the human body is the former but not the latter.

          • JoeStrauss 10/28/2013, 12:52 pm:

            Please explain the difference between the two(correction and adjustment)

  3. Claude Lessard 10/24/2013, 2:31 pm:

    … and also James, welcome to the blog. 🙂

  4. Claude Lessard 10/27/2013, 7:45 pm:

    James,
    Responding to your post of 10/24, 8:58pm, I’m saying that once the chiropractor has LACVS, the chiropractic objective has been met… PERIOD!

  5. Steve 10/28/2013, 2:14 pm:

    Correction: a change that makes something right.
    Adjustment: The act of making an alteration or modification.
    When an alteration (Adjustment) is made, Innate Intelligence can change (Correct) a Subluxation.
    The significance of Chiropractic is that one person can assist another person’s II in the Correction of Sux. by Adjusting their spine. This is the most unique and distinctive singular feature of our profession. One might even say it is the sole reason for our existence.
    We teach the Philosophy so folks understand why we Adjust. We use Science to improve our Adjustments. The Art of Adjusting is the Art of Chiropractic. Why do you think the A comes first in A, S & P?

    • JoeStrauss 10/28/2013, 6:43 pm:

      1.Steve, from your definition any alteration or modification (including manipulation or modifying, changing or altering curves or even plastic surgery/body modification) is an adjustment.
      2.I believe more people say Philosophy science and art then anything else.
      3.Do you really believe that you assist the ii of the body?
      4.All you know (or more technically are guessing) is where it does not belong not where it belongs. That’s the “science” of chiropractic.

      • Claude Lessard 10/28/2013, 9:11 pm:

        And HOW do we know that WHAT we are guessing is WHERE the vertebral subluxation does NOT belong? –

        – Through deductive reasoning as we apply the science of chiropractic with its 33 consistent and irrefutable principles. In this case principle 28 which states that: ” the forces of innate intelligence operate through or over the nervous system” and principle 29 which states that: “there can be interference with the transmission of innate forces” and principle 31 which states that: “interference with transmission within the body is always directly or indirectly due to subluxation in the vertebral column”. –

        – Therefore, we can deduce from these 3 principles that VS interferes with the innate forces of the innate intelligence of the body and, as objective chiropractors, our mandate is to practice the chiropractic objective. –

        – Therefore we know, through the science of chiropractic, that VS does NOT belong ANYWHERE! — I GUARANTEE! 😉

        • Steve 10/29/2013, 3:13 am:

          Claude, if you don’t know that you have no justification for Adjusting.

          • Claude Lessard 10/29/2013, 12:18 pm:

            Steve,

            Am I getting from your statement that vertebral subluxations which interferes with the instructive information of the innate intelligence of the body DO BELONG in the vertebral column? It’s the ONLY thing that I know, from the science of chiropractic and its 33 principles, that VS do NOT belong in the spine as it interferes with the FLOW of mental impulses! That’s WHY the OC will LACVS for a full expression of the innate FORCES of the innate intelligence of the body. PERIOD! PERIOD! – And make no mistake… The adjustic thrust, which is ultimately the apex of the ART of chiropractic, is the EDUCATED guess of ALL chiropractors!!!

            – It’s the ART that is ALWAYS a guess. The SCIENCE with its 33 principles is, so far, a solid platform that’s standing the tests of time and it is the GUARANTEE that VS is detrimental to the “living vertebrate body”. The PHILOSOPHY is the rational reasoning of the science and art of chiropractic for the justification and validation of the practice of the chiropractic objective.

      • Steve 10/29/2013, 3:10 am:

        1. The definitions were generic, the point was they are not interchangable.Technically those things reposition bones too and may accidently adjust the vertebrea allowing II to correct a Sux. Probably on par with a fall or bump, IOW mostly more harm than good. They do not compare in efficiency to the Chiropractic Adjustment.
        2. Will get back to you on that.
        3.YES, What I do (Adjust spines) often gives II the additional force necessary to use in Correcting the Sux.
        4. That is exactly right. Only II knows where tha bone belongs for optimum transmission.

        SNSC

        • Steve 10/29/2013, 3:22 am:

          4, Therefore Science is used to improve our Adjustments. This is hoped to increase the chances of II accepting that force for correction, no?

        • Steve 11/01/2013, 7:27 pm:

          Ok Joe,
          A quick scan of the Green Books shows the phrase “Art, Science and Philosophy” is mentioned 73 times. The highest number in “Our Masterpiece”, Vol. 39.
          Now you see why I would like your stuff on a searchable CD!

          • Claude Lessard 11/01/2013, 9:52 pm:

            Steve,

            What are you deducing from this information that you found in the Green Books?

          • Steve 11/01/2013, 11:10 pm:

            Claude,
            I was responding to Joe’s comment #2 10-28, 6:43pm. On 10-29 @3:10 am I said I would get back to him on that comment, well I’m back on that comment.
            Are you itching for some discourse on A, S, & P, my friend?

  6. Steve 10/29/2013, 2:47 pm:

    Claude, Claude, Claude
    Of course Sux. belongs in the spine. They cannot, by definition, exist in the heart or intestines or anywhere else unless you adjust extremities. A “Vertebral Subluxation” requires vertebra to be out of juxtaposition, that can only occur in the vertebral column. Let’s face it, the human was created/designed, subluxatable. As a profession we have decided,logically, that VS is a diabolical deterrent to life (I,F&M), but they are a reality as we understand life to be.
    Some people “belong” in prison, sad but true. That is never an optimal situation but it is realistic.
    Yes I whole heartedly agree the Adjustment is an Educated guess, that is why we have Science, to make our Education/guesses better, capish?

    • Claude Lessard 10/29/2013, 5:20 pm:

      Steve,

      Please explain your statement: “…the Adjustment is an Educated guess, that is why we have Science, to make our Education/guesses better”? In other words, HOW does science make your educated guesses better?

      • Steve 10/30/2013, 3:13 pm:

        Science gave us x-ray, thermocouples, thermography, all instruments that help us localize. Listings help us focus our Adjustic Thrust. Outcome measures help us validate techniques.
        Unless you Adjust by intuition alone you are a Scientist as well as an Artist and Philosopher.
        Sometimes Claude I think you are just baiting me, to see if I revert back to my old TSC ways of thinking.

    • JoeStrauss 10/29/2013, 9:38 pm:

      Steve, Claude : One of you (Steve)is saying VS belong in the spine as in “are confined to the spine”. The other (Claude) thinks you are saying VS belong “should be in the spine”. You have a simple semantical problem.

      • Steve 10/30/2013, 3:54 pm:

        Subluxations should be in the spine, it was made that way. They are normal for the subphylum, vertebrata. When there is an awkward concussion of forces wherein external invading force overcomes internal resistive force, you get a Sux., more awkward a dislocation, more awkward yet and you get a fracture. Sux. is a normal reaction to an abnormal amount of force entering the body. It must be normal, it happens to everyone, indeed every vertebrate.
        IMHO Sux. is an indicator of abnormality for the individual as it signifies the LOM threshold has been exceeded. It is also an indicator of abnormality because Sux. negates the equation of I + F + M = Life.

  7. Claude Lessard 11/02/2013, 11:43 am:

    Steve,

    I simply ask the question: What are you deducing from this information that you found in the Green Books?

  8. Steve 11/02/2013, 7:43 pm:

    It seems the phrase and the context in which it was used indicates Chiropractic is an Art. This Artistic endeavour is substantiated by Science and verified by Philosophy.
    Let me ask you, all, could someone become an excellent Adjuster with only rudimentary knowledge of the Science and little or no comprehension of the Philosophy?

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