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All therapies work on some of the people some of the time. The chiropractic adjustment works on all of the people all of the time (for what is intended to do).

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  1. Claude Lessard 10/17/2014, 6:51 pm:

    This is an AMAZING insight pointing to wisdom. The ultimate function of “living e/matter” is to express innate forces (pri.13, 22 and 23) within the limits of its adaptation (pri.24). This is what is considered normal (pri.27). Therefore, since the vertebral adjustment is produced by the innate intelligence of the body, it works on ALL the people ALL of the time, since innate intelligence is perfect (pri.22). And this is what the vertebral adjustment DOES: It corrects VS for a full expression of the innate forces of the body ALWAYS.

  2. David Suskin 10/18/2014, 1:06 pm:

    Claude,
    You say ‘The ultimate function of โ€œliving e/matterโ€ is to express innate forces…’
    I’m trying to understand what ‘ultimate function’ means.
    Could it mean that the matter that makes up man, man’s will, what functions to express one’s purpose in living, expressing, being is the prime directive of the intelligence? I DON’T THINK SO.
    I would think more accurately, The ultimate life enabling, or perhaps life directing, life supporting function of living e/matter OR
    perhaps the most NORMALIZING function of “living e/matter” is to express innate forces… OR
    I’m not really sure, but ULTIMATE FUNCTION OF THE MATTER OF MY BODY IS TO… I don’t know what that Means?
    I agree with Joe’s statement. Maybe that’s the best way of saying what I’m suppose to infer from your comment?

  3. David Suskin 10/18/2014, 1:56 pm:

    Claude: So.. Basically I don’t think that your ‘OPENER’ explains or qualifies the statement >> This is what is considered normal (pri.27). >>
    BUT – more in line with Joes statement and in agreement, I acknowledge agreement with

    ‘Therefore, since the vertebral adjustment is produced by the innate intelligence of the body, it works on ALL the people ALL of the time, since innate intelligence is perfect (pri.22). And this is what the vertebral adjustment DOES: It corrects VS for a full expression of the innate forces of the body ALWAYS’
    It’s not how you start, it’s how you finish so without condemnation, I retract my NitPick. ๐Ÿ™‚

  4. Don 10/18/2014, 4:23 pm:

    Just a thought…
    The vertebral adjustment does what intended all of the time.

    My two questions are less philosophical and more practical.
    My apologies if they are not appropriate for this forum.

    Does the method of applying forces matter?

    Is there a way to find out?

    • Claude Lessard 10/19/2014, 11:50 am:

      Don,

      It is you WHO is free to choose a technique, to apply the art of chiropractic, according to your objective as a chiropractor. B.J. said: “Chiropractic is specific, or it is nothing”. This epigram answers your question. It is you WHO is free to choose to BE specific, according to Don, in applying your educated adjustic thrust. It is you WHO is CAUSE WHEN you practice YOUR art form. HOW you choose to do it, is ultimately your choice. That is WHAT is your response-ability as a chiropractor. ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • Claude Lessard 10/19/2014, 11:56 am:

        … in other words, that’s what it means to “choose what is right, not expedient and wash your mind of all compromise”. RRG. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • Steve 10/21/2014, 1:44 pm:

      Don,
      BJ said, “Today, we do less and accomplish more”. As this is a theme in his work, I believe he is admonishing us to provide the most efficient force so as to let innate do more.
      You can smack ’em in the ass with a shovel, or you can carefully and precisely place your pisiform an a transverse arch, and thrust with torque, using speed and depth control. Would it matter to you if you were the patient/p.m..
      Is there a way to find out, yes. Learn multiple techniques and find which works best for you and yours.
      Do methods matter, YES.

  5. Steve 10/21/2014, 1:26 pm:

    There is cause, there is effect, and there are results. I assume in the first part, (All therapies work on some of the people some of the time) you are implying results. In the second, (The chiropractic adjustment works on all of the people all of the time (for what is intended to do)) you are limiting your opinion to effect. The point is, therapy effects all the same, with various results, and the adjustment effects are all the same, with various results. We can not know for sure in either case what innate intelligence will do with the donated force as both are universal forces tempered by education. The question becomes are we working for an educated result or a desired effect?

    • Claude Lessard 10/21/2014, 5:35 pm:

      Based on the AUTHORITY of the principles of chiropractic’s basic science, VS is THE CAUSE of interference with TRANSMISSION of innate FORCES (pri.31 and pri.29). The effect of interference with TRANSMISSION of innate FORCES is incoordination of DIS-EASE (pri.30). In other words, the principle of coordination (pri.32) is violated.

      Therefore, it is intent that is borne out of desire and desire that is borne of out of understanding. Ultimately, it is the chiropractor WHO is free to choose to practice the chiropractic objective. It becomes the WHY of the chiropractor to practice chiropractic. WHEN theses choices have been made, then it is the chiropractor WHO can choose HOW to best apply the art form of chiropractic. It is ALWAYS about the WHO is it not? ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • Steve 10/21/2014, 5:57 pm:

        Sorry Claude, you lost me. I remarked the comparison was apples to oranges…you say it matters WHO is comparing???

        • Claude Lessard 10/21/2014, 6:55 pm:

          Steve,

          Comparing is ALWAYS inversely proportional to the understanding of WHO the chiropractor is. The greater the understanding the less comparing. The chiropractic objective is based on the AUTHORITY of the 33 principles of chiropractic’s basic science. It is SEPARATE and DISTINCT from EVERYTHING ELSE and is INCLUSIVE of EVERYONE regardless of creed, culture, gender, health status or financial ability to pay. There is NOTHING to compare the chiropractic objective with. In other words, the more ONE understands, the less ONE compares. Yet, ONE is free to choose based on ONE’s understanding of chiropractic, is ONE not?

          • Steve 10/22/2014, 1:21 pm:

            Are you saying you do not see the grammatical slight of hand in the original post?

  6. Claude Lessard 10/22/2014, 2:24 pm:

    Steve,
    Do you mean the original post of Joseph?

    • Steve 10/22/2014, 3:10 pm:

      yes

      • Claude 10/22/2014, 3:51 pm:

        Steve,
        I do see it.

        • Claude 10/22/2014, 3:54 pm:

          That’s WHY it is me WHO chose to call it wisdom. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  7. Mike Adney 10/26/2014, 10:24 pm:

    Hello everyone! Can anyone clarify DD’s statement when in The Science, Art, and Philosophy of Chiropractic, he says,

    “There are two classes of Chiropractors, those who desire to know all they can of physiology, pathology, neurology and anatomy, and those who have an aversion for intelligence, do not want to take effect into consideration, depending only upon an examination of the spinous processes.”

    I don’t have this book and was wondering what the context was.

    Thank you!

  8. Steve 10/27/2014, 3:02 pm:

    Hey Mike,
    It seems DD was responding to a 1909 letter from C E Eddy DC, when actually he was admonishing BJ’s early writings. He was describing what today we would say is the difference between a mechanist and a vitalist. As in the next following sentence, โ€œMr. Palmer claims that the human system is simply an electric dynamo,”
    (Rob Sinnott has produced a CD of all the Green Books with search and capture for a very reasonable price)

    • Steve 10/27/2014, 6:47 pm:

      DD was addressing BJ as Mr. Palmer

      • Joe Strauss 10/28/2014, 1:10 am:

        Thanks Steve!

        • Claude Lessard 10/28/2014, 11:57 am:

          How do you read this quote of D.D. y’all? What did D.D. mean by that statement then, and how does it apply to NTOSCs and TSCs…..TODAY?

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