“Health Care Pofessions”

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Of all the “health care professions” throughout history only a few are still around and enjoy any level of success. All the rest have either been absorbed or eradicated by medicine. Dentistry and podiatry are the two most widely known ones. Both have four things in common:
1. They adhere to their mission and or objective.
2. They involve a limited part of the anatomy.
3. They never or no longer criticized medicine.
4. They do not purport to be an alternative to or substitute for medical care.

Is this or should it be a model for the chiropractic profession to follow?

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  1. David Suskin 11/12/2014, 1:37 am:

    Dentistry and Podiatry are both defined as branches of medicine.
    OSC has nothing to do with medicine.
    Points 1-4 could be applied to the workings of a shop where my wife gets her hair cut or wear she gets her mani-pedi!
    The paradigm of OSC bears resemblance to any viable niche business, except
    I know of know other professional business which defines itself
    As an Art, Science and Philosophy.
    Answer, without condemnation:No.

  2. David Suskin 11/12/2014, 1:36 pm:

    Recap…
    I know, the point of this post is to legitimize the 4 pt model you presented as viable for chiropractic, as it is in dentistry and podiatry.
    And while it might present itself as viable and practical, we can’t forget that, at least for dentistry, it has a long long tradition (1000’s of years old), so they worked their thing out with medicine, and hey, the MD’s wanted to start practicing dentistry a few years back. (Might still be on the table). I’m sure maxillo-facial surgeons and dentists have clashed, and MD hand and foot specialists (surgeons) have clashed with podiatry. I wonder how benign their relationships are behind their curtains.
    Chiropractic is such an apple floating in a sea of oranges, its no wonder even though that model you presented is viable, having a NON- THERAPEUTIC, NON-RESULT (non-diagnostic) based, Metaphysical Result, profession (debatable amongst ourselves) work within a 4 point model is and has been so highly improbable, in a Result, Money for Service (product), Consumer oriented World.
    The model is practical and works for some, but slipping wouldn’t be a FACT if it was so attainable.
    Re Answer: Model good, incomplete (how do you sell a metaphysical potential outcome of archimedes principle taken to the nth degree), perhaps impractical in a Consumer orientated world.
    Guess I’ve missed the boat, as many have, but I’m such a purist that my ship won’t sail till I resolve it which might be, Never.
    I’m not alone. Look at the numbers who’ve left the profession.
    You have to Sell Chiropractic. The other professions, you have to just sell yourself, if at all. My opinion (which could and probably will change in another minute or two as I rethink my waffling)
    Sorry to get off topic
    Carrying On ADIO in my own way 😉

    • Claude 11/12/2014, 3:16 pm:

      Chiropractic is SEPARATE and DISTINCT from EVERYTHING else and is INCLUSIVE of EVERYONE regardless of creed, culture, gender, health status and financial ability to pay. –

      – It is time to educe from people that which is ALREADY within them, namely, principle #1 and principle #20 in as many creative ways as doable. They exist and they are alive. This can be done from a chiropractic standpoint ONLY, based on the AUTHORITY of the 33 principles of chiropractic’s basic science. Little by little SOME will grow tn that awareness and ripen. Let’s face it, a whole lot of thinking and reflecting was nedded to established the chiropractic objective from the AUTHORITY of the 33 principles of chiropractic’s basic science. Success is based on the amount of EDUCING that you do in the moment. If you do it RIGHT NOW, you are successful, as you have CAUSED new possibilities to be present for another such that it RESONATE with them and INPIRES as they MOVE from point A to point B

      • Joe Strauss 11/12/2014, 4:00 pm:

        Claude You wrote “Chiropractic is SEPARATE and DISTINCT from EVERYTHING else and is INCLUSIVE of EVERYONE regardless of creed, culture, gender, health status and financial ability to pay”. -isn’t the “financial ability to pay” a personal matter and not a chiropractic issue. It was my personal philosophy but it is not addressed in the 33 Principles.

        • Claude Lessard 11/12/2014, 4:31 pm:

          Yes Joseph. Thank for checking my slipping. 😉

    • Joe Strauss 11/12/2014, 9:47 pm:

      Actually David, I was not trying to legitimize that position. It was the draft of a post in which I wanted to expand upon and tried to save it but ended up hitting “publish”. Rather than delete it (which I have the power to do) I figured I would let people chew on it. Remember the post “IRAPS/ACP”,(I think it was Monday’s? In there I presented different views of chiropractic. The view expressed in that post represents “a. ..contributes to health”, a legitimate approach which some traditional chiropractors take to avoid the “getting sick people well label. But as you so beautifully pointed out, no one assumes that dentists and podiatrists are just contributing to people’s health . They are assumed to be treating tooth and foot diseases. The same thing will happen to chiropractic. The argument contained in that approach was made a few years ago at an IRAPS in rebuttal, when I presented a paper entitled “Chiropractic is not a health profession”. You clearly saw the error in that rebuttal argument. Good job.

      • David Suskin 11/13/2014, 12:02 am:

        Joe and others,

        Since Chiropractic is NOT a Health Profession (not really a Disease Profession)

        Maybe it is
        The Only Health Profession (if health is defined as innate fully expressed in living matter)

        Or (fill in the blank)
        Chiropractic is a ______ Profession?

        Suggestions
        Chiropractic is a Life Enhancement Profession.
        Chiropractic – A Life Connection Vitalistic Profession
        Chiropractic is a Vitalistic Profession
        Chiropractic is a Transformative Profession
        Chiropractic is a Triune Profession (ii if im or art science philosophy)
        Chiropractic is a Unique Profession
        Chiropractic is a Metaphysical Profession
        Chiropractic is an ADIO Profession

        Yes, we’ll have to explain what these terms mean, but it puts something accurate, on the table.

  3. David Suskin 11/12/2014, 3:56 pm:

    Chiropractic Exists? Maybe so, but can a ChiropracTOR survive educing p1, p20 – that which ALREADY exists within Another. Selling concepts, ethically, takes a master. Can a ChiropracTOR survive Educing, Resonating, Inspiring without BEING a Charismatic Sage or having a FIRE under his tuchas for whatever reason, or as in most cases take the easier route and SELL Merchandise, Sell Hope.
    People are like sheep. It’s not nice to manipulate but
    A man cannot live by bread alone.
    Do I sound Sour? Have I Ripened too Much?

    • Claude Lessard 11/12/2014, 5:50 pm:

      David,

      “it’s supposed to be hard. If it wasn’t hard, everyone would do it. The hard is what makes it great.” Tom Hanks, A League of Their Own. 😉

      • David Suskin 11/12/2014, 7:08 pm:

        Claude,
        That’s why I keep talking about Perspective.
        33 principles give me a perspective. Ones perspective allows one to, or NOT to resonate with the 33 principles.
        Is the Glass half full-half empty?? All depends on your outlook, on your HEART (emotions), on your psyche.
        If Chiropractic bears no fruit, except a theoretical fruit, an invisible fruit, well that’s hard to live on.
        And I understand the objective, and the Period, and the arriving, getting out of the car and going into the house, and the moments of getting on the soap box and preaching the 33 principles, but what is the Reward? With NO Result to hang your hat on? A principle? Archemedes Principle extended (Joe’s fabulous observation)?
        You have to be Attractive. Chiropractic and it’s 33 principles has to Attract. The result of Chiropractic Adjustments has to be an attraction.
        Can a metaphysical attraction, and purpose be enough for people to flock? to a Cause? Not an Event? (Result)? I know it has for some.
        I know if you mix it with lotions and potions you might get some more.
        I know if you take the insurance gravy train, you can, perhaps? (How boring and misplaced, and basically misrepresenting Chiropractic to a point of being Illegal! I can’t do that anymore. BUT
        To be on a pulpit every day. Day in and Day out as people say, hey doc have this back ache, or I heard Chiropractic is good for…, or
        You guys are accepted by the Medical Community more, or… on and on, year after year…
        I DON’T KNOW HOW TO INJECT THE KOOLAID THAT YOU DRINK CLAUDE INTO MY VEINS AND MAINTAIN THE HIGH THAT YOU DO (I’m presuming)
        High on the 33 Principles? I’d like to be. Sometimes I get it and sometimes, too much, too much cerebral activity. Too heavy, too serious for David S to be in. Need to be lighter, less intense!
        Now if we had a result based profession like the rest of the world operates in, well that’s something different.
        I do this, we basically get result, you pay me for a good job and move on.
        33 Principles? Yes, with the right perspective it’s awesome.
        But The rest of the world is managing matter and we’re managing the Life Connection.
        It’s like you have to open up a Church or a New Age Transformational Gate (network). Wow Man! I can dig it Man! That’s so cool Man! I’ll PAY for that Man! (I know I’m showing my age with all the ‘Man’ talk) I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore! (network) sorry for the turrets outburst!
        No seriously Claude, Joe, ANYONE! What am I missing here?
        There is no Goose that lays the Golden Egg? There is no Santa Claus? There is no Panacea? The only Truth is the Truth we can control or Get Passionate abouty OR THE TRUTH WE CAN EXPRESS and entertain the rest.
        God, it’s a friggen nightmare. Tom Hanks (now I don’t know the man or his skeletons, BUT, he’s been successful for 40 years!!!!!
        Talent! You need Talent and a Dream and a means to go for it!
        But now, for me? at this young-older age?? Reinventing myself, once again??? Yes, It’s hard… and I’m complaining alot!
        THERE HAS TO BE AN ANSWER, AN ANSWER RIGHT NOW! RIGHT THIS SECOND, NOW! TODAY!!!! WHAT IS IT??? 🙂

  4. Dr. Kirk McAnsh, D.C. 11/12/2014, 7:24 pm:

    I believe the “powers that be” have made it a Federal crime called “inducement” to give any product or service that has a value of more than $10 per transaction and a $50 per year limit… punishable by fines and jail time if violated.

    How does THAT fit in with a philosophy that believes a client’s ability to pay doesn’t matter?…

    • Steve 11/12/2014, 9:53 pm:

      As Joe and Claude discuss above, ability to pay is not part of the chiropractic philosophy. It is a moral obligation. When you understand to implications of the subluxation it becomes a duty to make the adjustment available to all vertebrata.
      Bribing (inducing) someone to be your patient is not the same thing.

      • Claude Lessard 11/13/2014, 2:34 pm:

        David,

        The human body is the manifestation of the signs of life (pri.18), and innate intelligence is what maintains that body in in ACTIVE organization (pri.21), which means that the innate intelligence of the body keeps the body LIVING (alive). There is a union between the innate intelligence of the body and the human body that makes them operate as one. That union is accomplished through innate forces. Well, then, you ask, what makes the profession special? What makes practice members different? –

        – In the first hundred years of the profession’s formation, a great deal of ink was spilled trying to unpack one principle where it states that we are “a triunity having three necessary united factors, namely: intelligence, force and e/matter (pri.4). This was the consensus they came to: ALL e/matter of the body is the objective expression of the instructive information of innate intelligence for ALL life forms (pri.13, 20, 21 and 23). EVERYONE bears the innate code (pri.20). Therefore, EVERYONE is objectively the MANIFESTATION of the innate forces of the innate intelligence of the body (pri.14 and 23). EVERYONE is maintained in ACTIVE organization by innate intelligence (pri.21) and manifest the innate forces of the intelligence of the body (pri.14 and 23) within the limitation of their respective e/matter (pri.24).

        MANIFESTATION is your subjective appropriation of this reality, your subjective actualization of the innate forces of the innate intelligence of the body. Now, something can be absolutely rational and real, but until you bring the unconscious logic into a conscious choice and realization, it isn’t real for you. –

        – We are ALL equal on the first level, the level of EXPRESSION of the innate forces of the innate intelligence of the body (pri.13, 20,21 and 23). On the second level, we are clearly at different levels of “ripening”… same EXPRESSION, but different MANIFESTATION. Most of the profession’s work has been focused at the second level, trying to make chiropractors all alike in “getting the sick well” and in doing so, chiropractors want to “sell” results rather than EDUCING from them what is ALREADY within them, in yielding to what the public wants (no symptoms, pain free, etc..) rather that what the public needs (full expression of IF). The profession got so preoccupied with getting sick people well, that we underplayed the 33 principles of chiropractic’s basic science (specially pri.1 and 20). OCs are practicing the chiropractic objective and teach the non-therapeutic reality of chiropractic much better. But therapeutic chiropractors are profoundly medically oriented, largely without honoring the 33 principles of chiropractic’s basic science (nor does NTSC honor the TSC and MIXERS very much!). The point is that we both lost out on the full POSSIBILITY of unification under the AUTHORITY of the 33 principles of chiropractic’s basic science. –

        – My mentor, Reggie, said: “Choose what is RIGHT, not expedient, and wash your minds of all compromise”. He told me once, at the 2006 Sherman Lyceum after my presentation entitled “051 Degrees”, that I reminded him of WHO he was as a chiropractor and how proud he was (with tears in his eyes). I was AMAZED and realized that all I had to do, was to be myself, to be present, because, David, you are not going to get there, YOU ARE ALREADY THERE… and you’re NOT conscious of it. What you are drawing upon is already within you. It’s there, David, I know it’s there, I see it in your posts. Do you KNOW that David? –

        – All you have to do, is to BE conscious of it, and PARTICIPATE in this great HONOR to be an OC. Get out of “Puddles’ Pity Party”. Eventually it will BE natural for you and will ignite in you THE passionate fire of telling the story over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over… you get the point!!! –

        – This is NOT something you manufacture by reading the Blue Books or visiting COTB and beating yourself up to the ground. You do AWAKEN it, however, by participating in a group of like minded OCs, by digesting the BLUE BOOKS, practicing the chiropractic objective, and by SLOWLY ripening to the full stature of WHO you choose to BE as a chiropractor. –

        • David Suskin 11/13/2014, 8:30 pm:

          Claude,
          Again, thank you for shining some light.
          With regards to your statement:
          We are ALL equal on the first level, the level of EXPRESSION …
          On the second level, we are clearly at different levels of “ripening”… same EXPRESSION, but different MANIFESTATION. Most of the profession’s work has been focused at the second level…
          COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT?
          If 2nd level is manifesting variations between people and their personal ii, how can the profession be focused on the 2nd level.
          OR are you saying, that the profession is focusing on the 2nd level, trying to make everyone the same, AND THEY CAN’T. IT’S NOT AN ENTITY OF UNIFIED SAMENESS. We all have different ii’s to serve us, and it’s our job to help unite ii with iMatter allowing the unique nature of people to manifest and ripen….????

          • Claude Lessard 11/13/2014, 9:49 pm:

            David,

            Most of the profession’s work has been focused at the second level, trying to make chiropractors all ALIKE in “getting the sick well” and in doing so, chiropractors NEED to “sell” results in order to prove that they are doing a better job, as an alternative to their medical counter part, rather than EDUCING from people what is ALREADY within them (pri.1 and 20). This way they yield to what the public wants (no symptoms, pain free, etc..) rather that what the public needs (full expression of IF).

        • David Suskin 11/14/2014, 2:46 am:

          Claude,
          You say,
          Be conscious of it and participate in this great honor, to be an OC.
          If someone said, David, be conscious of what you’re feeling, or thinking of, I’d say wait a second. Ok, I’m feeling this or that. I’d introspect and say I’m thinking of this or that.
          Being conscious of this ii unconscious code and make choices.
          Are you saying come to the present. Be the I AM?
          Sense your own existence?
          What does IT feel like? What comes to mind when you touch or manifest the innate force touching your body (matter), manifesting a full expression of innate force? What changes? Allowing me to be me, unjudged. How does that happen?
          Is it the power of choice, the freedom of the will? Is it the love for the miracle that actively organizes. Is it the love of self. Is it the realization that Everyone, everything is unique.and to be honored. Even the things, the people that disgust you? They too are directed by ii, by a confused educated and p24.
          How to navigate events that are controlling you when you don’t want to succumb to that control. Fear, worry, concern, anxiety, failure, harsh feelings that dominate innate with its universal unadapted strength.
          So many feelings, thoughts. You get older, and it doesn’t get any easier.
          You just get dull, numb. I keep pushing but are my eyes facing forward?
          Ebbing and flowing yields results, yet what gets in the way?
          Vulnerabilities, feelings of having to accept the imperfections of ones sacrifices. Taking the good with the bad and being at peace with that.
          Is the Authority so definitive that Honor speaks to YOU every moment?
          I have so many times felt so close yet so far away.
          Have I rambled enough?
          Claude!
          Give me 1 thing, or 5 things, or perhaps 10 things
          1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
          To do, with the 33 principles, with chiropractic, with telling the story over and over, that will get me there Now, or let me be conscious that I am there already.
          ADIO must be able coalesce with my educated consciousness and produce a man with a mission to succeed and indeed be successful,
          In NTOSC. I need this, but only personal experience, something that I can touch and touches me will propel me.
          How do I inspire myself?

          • Claude Lessard 11/14/2014, 5:38 am:

            David,

            Do with chiropractic whatever you do with jazz. Let it come out! It’s within YOU! Open the door and get out of the way. Just do it! It takes time, a whole lot of time to be a good musician… it takes time, a whole lot of time to be a good OC.

            Carry on. ADIO. 😉

          • Joe Strauss 11/14/2014, 9:36 pm:

            Claude and David. I don’t know too much about Jazz but I understand much of it is improvisation. Do you think too many chiropractors improvise in their philosophy, blurting out whatever they feel at the moment rather than thoughtfully deducing from the 33 principles? Just a question.

        • David Suskin 11/15/2014, 9:33 am:

          Claude, and Joe.
          Perhaps you can put into words, so on point as you do,
          The experience, as you just did for the OC,
          For the PM
          This way I can eloquently have the accuracy, the clarity, the wonder meant of the Chiropractic Adio viewpoint to put forth as what the future holds once a person starts getting adjusted and understands the 33 principles themselves.
          Basically I have done this. I extract snippets from these blogs, from this particular post, that you described the realities of chiropractic for the chiropractor and applied it to a process, if you will, that fits you, me, and everyone.
          As it pertains to expression (what joins us all), but sets the stage for manifestation(what individualizes us all) and nurtures us all as separate, ripening lives, like fruit, like trees, like ponds or streams of life.
          The educing. That’s what chiropractic has to offer mankind.
          One very important part of self actualization.
          But perhaps you could fill in some of the cracks I have left out. In your so knowledgeable edification.
          And what pre tell would manifestation lead into?
          Maybe it IS self actualization and the potpourri of a unified and elevated mankind in aw of our differences, our similarities.
          The balance between ii, ei, and p24 would allow for a more
          Ripened freedom, creativity, unification, love, understanding, morality and perhaps brotherhood and ascension.

          • Claude Lessard 11/15/2014, 12:39 pm:

            Dave,

            The cracks ALWAYS get filled out along the way, although there will ALWAYS be cracks… that’s how the light gets in. 😉

            Carry on. ADIO.

  5. David Suskin 11/13/2014, 2:54 pm:

    Oh Claude,
    So clearly said, and so eloquent!
    You brought a tear to my eye.
    Thank You
    Dave

  6. Claude Lessard 11/14/2014, 10:58 pm:

    As Dave Liebman observes,

    “I think that a typical student attending a jazz school or taking private lessons with a master might not be totally cognizant of it, but (s)he may be looking for something that is not there-sort of like the keys to the kingdom. Loving the music, being inspired by it and wanting to play is exciting and the nature of youth is to want to get it immediately. Sometimes expectations exceed reality and a feeling of disappointment may result. This is natural and probably unavoidable, but it is up to teachers and institutions to be honest and up front with the appropriate intentions.

    Surely we lay out the equivalent of facts and figures to be memorized and regurgitated, but because of the special nature of the artistic process, the material itself is secondary to the process of instigating a student’s creativity.” –

    – That’s what I mean by telling the story over and over and over again in as many CREATIVE ways as doable. I understand the a Jazz musician has to be excellent in art in order to “say” something that will RESONATE with his audience and INSPIRE them to MOVE from point A to point B. It’s not “blurting out whatever” even though that’s what it may sound like to folks who don’t know much about it. –

    – At the beginning of care, some people have no clue what we are saying even though they nod their heads in affirmation. Later on, with further educing, they come to realize what it is that we offer. That’s WHY we should be MASTER of the 33 principles of chiropractic’s basic science. –

    – I’m sure that David has MUCH to say on that subject.

    • David Suskin 11/15/2014, 12:31 am:

      Claude, Joe,
      Many people confuse improvisation with the the playing or the communication of cliches. I think that’s what many chiropractors do. They grab a little here and take a little there and put it out as The Chiropractic Message. When it’s not. It’s just a convenient hodgepodge of non professional or overly educated scientisms that impress but bear no resemblance to what makes chiropractic unique, and essential.
      Actually thinking about the age ole question What Is Jazz? Kind of reminds me of the disagreements we encounter when defining chiropractic. We have a philosophy but many want to keep it within a tradition of spirituality. Some want to advance its essence, and continue its evolution, offer narrower interpretations or perhaps broaden them.
      Jazz has improvisation but there are big band arrangements that have no formal improvisation, but it’s still jazz. That quintessential element of jazz has been called Swing! Hey I’ve heard jazz that didn’t swing, perhaps but I’d still call it jazz. What is that essential quality. Not improvisation, not swing, but Quality!
      Ellington or Satchmo said music is either good or bad, that’s it.
      It’s a difficult thing defining things at their essential roots. Coming to a consensus. Very challenging.
      Maybe it’s a continuum. If it had swing, it’s jazz. If it has improvisation it’s wonderfully and individually creative jazz. In the moment. If it’s quality, well than its ageless. And then there’s the vocal element of sound. Direct communication from the heart and soul with musical invention. Jazz is beautiful painfully beautiful. And it’s ugly, and funny. It’s real. It’s in the moment. See, I can’t tell you what it is. Just what it’s not. It’s the blues with great technique. Whatever
      So you have to practice a lot. A lot of cliches, a lot of scales. And then be able to think in a language that communicates for lack of a better word, soul. And then there is technique. Absolute wizardry. And power.
      And again always something absolutely beautiful.
      The jazz musician, while many entertain really are playing for themselves. Entertaining would be called walking the bar.
      Jazz is a musicians music. But there’s nothing like doing a foxtrot to a big band ballad. So. Again. Who knows.
      Improvisation?
      Actually with most improvisation, most of it is arrangement of practiced and memorized structures with perhaps 10% improvised.
      The great improvisers manage to create a line that communicates, that Transcends. That’s the word. Transcends.
      Maybe that’s what chiropractic allows. It allows people to transcend their material analysis of themselves in a working approach that deals with their life force.

      • Claude Lessard 11/15/2014, 12:44 pm:

        … or better yet, ‘THERE IS A CRACK IN EVERYTHING, THAT’S HOW THE LIGTH GETS IN.” Leonard Cohen

        • David Suskin 11/15/2014, 1:05 pm:

          …I don’t crack backs! 🙁
          ,,,And the alphabet begins with the letter A, Which stands for ARMSTRONG…
          Oh Claude. You just love the Canadian Club 😉

  7. David Suskin 11/15/2014, 1:57 pm:

    Claude,
    Didn’t see your top post. Yes yes, the irritated oyster produces the pearl.
    Every cloud has a silver lining. And for my next number (slow and swinging)
    That’s life (that’s life), that’s what all the people say
    You’re ridin’ high in April, shot down in May
    But I know I’m gonna change that tune
    When I’m back on top, back on top in June

    I said that’s life (that’s life), and as funny as it may seem
    Some people get their kicks stompin’ on a dream
    But I don’t let it, let it get me down
    ’cause this fine old world, it keeps spinnin’ around

    I’ve been a puppet, a pauper, a pirate, a poet, a pawn and a king
    I’ve been up and down and over and out and I know one thing
    Each time I find myself flat on my face
    I pick myself up and get back in the race

    That’s life (that’s life), I tell you I can’t deny it
    I thought of quitting, baby, but my heart just ain’t gonna buy it
    And if I didn’t think it was worth one single try
    I’d jump right on a big bird and then I’d fly

    I’ve been a puppet, a pauper, a pirate, a poet, a pawn and a king
    I’ve been up and down and over and out and I know one thing
    Each time I find myself layin’ flat on my face
    I just pick myself up and get back in the race

    That’s life (that’s life), that’s life and I can’t deny it
    Many times I thought of cuttin’ out but my heart won’t buy it
    But if there’s nothin’ shakin’ come this here July
    I’m gonna roll myself up in a big ball a-and die

    My, my!

    • Claude 11/15/2014, 2:48 pm:

      Ahhhh… The Chairman of the Board with his “Ol’ Blue Eyes”

      • Claude Lessard 11/15/2014, 5:29 pm:

        As an aside,

        Yesterday, a nice couple who’s been under chiropractic care over 60 years (20 years with me) came in as they were celebrating their 71st wedding anniversary! Then a few minutes later, another practice member who’s been under chiropractic care for 91 years (35 years with me) came in. You had to see the three of them carrying on with jokes and laughers. The reception room was full and the people were amazed. What do you think I did at that moment?

        • Tom 11/15/2014, 7:44 pm:

          You asked the three of them to talk to the others in the waiting room about their amazing chiropractic experience. 🙂

          • Claude 11/15/2014, 11:27 pm:

            Almost Tom.

  8. David Suskin 11/15/2014, 5:31 pm:

    Cried?

    • Claude 11/15/2014, 6:48 pm:

      Nope.

  9. David Suskin 11/15/2014, 10:47 pm:

    Um, you shook there hands and said thank you for allowing me to be your chiropractor.
    Amazing isn’t it?

    • Claude 11/15/2014, 11:26 pm:

      Not quite

  10. David Suskin 11/16/2014, 8:18 am:

    Well Doc Lessard!
    You asked the question?
    May I humbly request your answer to What do you think I did? being that Only YOU were there. NOT MY Innate, and you left us all hangin. See. Its 2:45am EST. Woke out of a dream. Quite an interesting one at that, just to find your answer. But alas. No answer!
    Survey Says?______________
    Without condemnation. P L E A S E. I Gots To Know (dirty harry). 😉

    • Claude Lessard 11/16/2014, 12:40 pm:

      I politely asked Charlie, “How long did it take you to know WHO Ruth really is?” He quirked: “Heck I still don’t know WHO she is!” While everybody laughed, I turned to Ruth and asked: “Well, Ruth, how bout dat? Name me ONE process that doesn’t require time?” She said: “We went through this before… NONE of course!” I said: That’s right, that’s principle #6 of chiropractic’s basic science and I handed to EVERYBODY, in the reception room, a photocopy of principle #6. The I asked: “Caroline, (who’s under care for 91 years since she was an infant in October 1924), if Charlie after 71 years of marriage still doesn’t know Ruth, she must be quite a process, don’t you think?” Caroline, then quirked: “I’ll say, I don’t even know myself”. Everybody laughed! I wished I had videotaped it. 😉

  11. David Suskin 11/16/2014, 1:34 pm:

    That is a gem!
    And you wanted us to guess what you did? Oh Claude, you asked them questions about Who And What, about them and questions about the 33 principles! Now that was easy. We should all know That about You! I can only imagine the things we don’t know about you, about ourselves as it should be? Like Caroline! So everyone is ripening eternally in life? Aye?

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