Objectives V. Manifesations

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The objective of chiropractic is improvement in the expression of intelligence through matter. The elapse of time does not hinder the objective, only a possible manifestation of that objective which is the objective of medicine  .

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  1. David Suskin 08/19/2016, 4:04 pm:

    The manifestation of an improvement in the expression of intelligence through matter is the objective of medicine? Since when did medicine concern itself with manifestations of anything that focused on the expression of intelligence through matter? That might happen, but certainly it IS NOT the Intent of Medicines Objective. I would think that A manifestation of that objective would be more in the purview of the Objective of Innate Intelligence what we call Active Organization (P21)

    • Claude Lessard 08/20/2016, 4:52 pm:

      Principle 13 states that “the function of e/matter is to express force(instructive information created by intelligence)” That’s WHY the chiropractic objective is to LACVS for a full expression of the innate FORCES of the innate intelligence of the body. PERIOD.
      After the PERIOD, whatever manifestation (results) e/matter will have, does not influence the chiropractic objective. –

      – On the other hand, principle 14 states that “force (instructive information created by intelligence) is manifested by motion in e/matter”. Again, this resulting motion will NOT influence the chiropractic objective. Results in manifestion is a change in the motion of e/matter. That is truly the objective of medicine… to educatedly change e/matter to treat symptoms and disease. ONLY the objective of chiropractic deals with the interference with TRANSMISSION of innate FORCES, the second component of the triune. Therefore, together without condemnation, we conclude that, according to the AUTHORITY of the 33 principles of chiropractic’s basic science, that Joseph’s opening post is true.

  2. David Suskin 08/20/2016, 5:33 pm:

    The Chiropractic objective IS LACVS Period. Agreed. Are not symptoms and disease conditions of Living matter NOT p14 manifestations (motion) of Any e/matter?
    Where your statement says:
    ‘to educatedly change e/matter to treat symptoms and disease (medicine) is an apple to Joes orange statement.
    Unless you are proclaiming that ANY educated change to force effecting e/matter expression IS Medicine? My TV is doing that right now. It is not symptomatic. Do we have a lexiconical issue?
    Any focus into inducing manifestation entertains a control of e/matter by educated int that by definition is OI but not necessarily Medical?
    That is why I stated that Innate Intelligence Manifesting was its Mission (ADIO). Are you agreeing with me or clarifying.
    I’m waiting for Joe to say, I agree with Claude agreeing with me😏

    • Claude Lessard 08/21/2016, 12:19 am:

      As you pointed out so well, “that an educated change to force effecting e/matter is (INDEED) the objective of medicine”! Medicine is therapeutic and its goal is to change e/matter (3rd component of the triune) to treat symptoms and disease. On the other hand, the objective of chiropractic is non-therapeutic and its goal is to LACVS for a full expression on the innate FORCES (2nd component of the triune) of the innate intelligence of the body. PERIOD. I know you know that! What are you doing David?

  3. David Suskin 08/21/2016, 3:04 am:

    I’m thinking outside the box Claude. Reread Joes statement. I interpret it as ambiguous at least to my limited educated intelligence. Do you think it’s time for medical intervention? Oh yes I forgot. Im expressing a manifestation beyond the PERIOD. 😀Argh😕

    • Claude Lessard 08/21/2016, 12:28 pm:

      At your request David, I reread Joseph’s post. Let me make it crystal clear that as long as you do not reframe your reality, as long as you insist on your own frame of reference, you will not be able to understanding the clarity of Joseph’s post. ADIO is the term for the frame of understanding here, or what we often call “THE BIG IDEA” or “the Chiropractic Objective”. You’ve got to find some framework that allows you to stand back and look at the moment with the eyes of the 33 principles of chiropractic’s basic science. Then you’ll see that many things which appear to be contradictory through logical, egocentric, dispsycho thinking might not necessarily be so to the AUTHORITY of chiropractic (the 33). In other words, as long as you refuse to see Joseph’s post through the 33 principles of chiropractic’s basic science, which is the AUTHORITY of chiropractic, you further limit your educated intelligence. –

      – Might that be your next step David? To accept the 33 as AUTHORITY of chiropractic? 😉

  4. David Suskin 08/21/2016, 2:46 pm:

    Claude,
    With regards to the acceptance of the 33Ps as AUTHORITY, I Agree.
    More so the ‘a prior’ experience/framework/perception/reality having embraced AUTHORTY of (33), perhaps more so the total acceptance and understanding of P1.
    I do have my personal issues with AUTHORITY in general. You got it man. I tend to be Controlled by The authority of the expert, the authority of life’s circumstances, the authority of man (medicine) as displayed by a personal insecurity, a vulnerability to what I perceive as AUTHORITY. Don’t know if I’m making myself clear here. I do think this is some of the Stuff that Slipping and Checking is made of, and why so many, So Many are not able to personally manage their own truth seeking transformations. I am extremely sensitive in these matters, and quite self aware, although unable to reconcile. I’m honest. To a fault. Almost.
    Yes Claude. I don’t accept 33 as AUTHORITY. Bingo.
    I believe a logical analytical persuit will one day Free me to Accept AUTHORITY. And yet this all might be a poor attempt to avoid the risk that any successful venture is required of. Responsibility issue? It’s some kind of disconnect to surrendering to some power greater than me. It’s a defense mechanism perhaps. ANYWAY
    as per Joes statement ‘only a possible manifestation of that objective’, this would seem to imply that ANYTHING that involves manifestation IS Medical and that is what I am questioning. But you know that. And your saying yes David. I think
    Question: In the face of contradiction, dipsycho, logic, etc. how do YOU maintain AUTHORITY of the (33) in addition to your telling the story over and over in as many creative ways as possible.

    • Claude 08/22/2016, 2:46 pm:

      David,

      In chiropractic, either a chiropractor is therapeutic (treatment of symptoms and disease) or non-therapeutic (LACVS for a full expression of the innate forces of the innate intelligence of the body). The chiropractic objective is congruent with the function of e/matter (pri.13) and that is WHERE and WHY it puts PERIOD there. Innate intelligence is normal and its function is normal (pri.27). “The objective of chiropractic (correcting interference with TRANSMISSION of innate FORCES (pri.29) is improvement in the expression of intelligence through matter. The elapse of time does not hinder the objective”. –

      – On the other hand, principle 14 is about MANIFESTATION of FORCE in e/matter and does NOT concern the PRACTICE of the chiropractic objective. When a chiropractor makes MANIFESTATIONS (results) a concern, there is NO PERIOD… and her/his practice is based on OIBU thinking and is being therapeutic. Then it becomes “only a possible manifestation of that objective which is the objective of medicine” , since this chiropractor is one WHO chooses to look for results (manifestations) which are under perfect control of the innate intelligence of the body (pri.22,23). And as you already know, David, in medicine EVERYTHING is therapeutically oriented. –

      – Therefore together without condemnation, we can conclude that, in chiropractic, anyone WHO chooses to be concerned with MANIFESTATIONS (results) is practicing the medical objective which is to treat symptoms and disease!

  5. David Suskin 08/23/2016, 12:22 pm:

    Claude,
    You present a good explanation (analysis). I quibble with the different meanings you attribute Manifestation versus Expression.
    On the Matter side, You draw a distinction between Matter Expressing (ADIO), and Matter Manifesting (OIBU). I understand your point, but just trying to dot MY i’s, cross MY t’s. If you think it’s noteworthy, please respond. If not, I certainly have plenty to chew on. Always a pleasure 🙂

    • Claude Lessard 08/23/2016, 6:11 pm:

      E/matter expresses instructive information (pri 13). This instructive information is manifested as motion in e/matter (pri 14). Without interference with transmission (pri 29), the expression of information by e/matter will manifest a normal (pri 27) motion in e/matter within it’s limitations (pri 24) … ONLY known to the innate intelligence of the body! PERIOD. Again, it’s rather crystal clear! Don’t you think?

      • David Suskin 08/23/2016, 7:24 pm:

        OOO I like that Claude. Alot!
        But you see there can be manifestation of Normal (ADIO)(ii),
        and manifestation of universal force (OIBU)(medical).
        yes/no? (symantics between strict RWS 33 and other lexiconical references) (expression is information that manifests in matter as motion, etc.)
        Here we get into lexiconical usage of terms and/or adherence only to the terms as used within the 33 as used to post concepts. Don’t know if Joe was referencing ii or ui, except for his reference to time which I guess presents your suggested distinction. I did allude to ‘Innate Intelligence Manifesting’ as Normal as its Mission (ADIO). Am I swirling this around to much?
        Bottom Line… If conflicts clarify for me, you nailed a wopper as Crystal Clear, versus my gobaligook! 😉

  6. David Suskin 08/23/2016, 2:46 pm:

    I wonder if Joe was referring to the same Lexicon (chiro) as you did in his statement ‘…only a possible MANIFESTATION of that objective which is the objective of medicine.’
    Probably so. should be #tagteam 🙂

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